Vatican II Lumen Gentium states:

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Vatican II Lumen Gentium states:

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Using the common phrase "Spirit of Vatican II" as justification, dissenters claim that Vatican II focused on changing the Church to become "up to date with the modern times." That is simply a misrepresentation of the Truth. While dissenters want to replace the Truths contained in teachings of the Church with their own under the guise of "getting up to date," what Vatican II really focused on was to find a new method to teach the same unchanging Truth. Essentially the intent was to change the method of teaching, not the teaching (i.e. Truth) itself. The Vatican II opening speech by Pope John XXIII states this clearly, as do the documents produced by Vatican II.

Vatican II Dei Verbum, which references Biblical teaching, summarizes the need for obedience quite clearly:

#5: " 'The obedience of faith' (Rom. 13:26; see 1:5; 2 Cor 10:5-6) 'is to be given to God who reveals, an obedience by which man commits his whole self freely to God, offering the full submission of intellect and will to God who reveals,' and freely assenting to the truth revealed by Him."

Lumen Gentium reiterates many times in specific detail that obedience is required. Such obedience is not only for that of the laity (the People of God) but also that of Bishops and priests to the same teachings of the Church. The various forms and conditions for obedience are shown below. Nowhere in Vatican II teachings is it ever stated that one should dissent from Church teachings.

The People of God must obey the teaching authority of the Church who has received and then Список стран по электронной почте propagates the Faith to the current generation.

#12: "... By this appreciation of the faith, aroused and sustained by the Spirit of truth, the People of God, guided by the sacred teaching authority (Magisterium), and obeying it, receives not the mere word of men, but truly the word of God (cf. 1 Th. 2:13), the faith once for all delivered to the saints (cf. Jude 3). The People unfailingly adheres to this faith, penetrates it more deeply with right judgment, and applies it more fully in daily life."

#25: "Bishops who teach in communion with the Roman Pontiff are to be revered by all as witnesses of divine and Catholic truth; the faithful, for their part, are obliged to submit to their bishops' decision, made in the name of Christ, in matters of faith and morals, and to adhere to it with a ready and respectful allegiance of mind. This loyal submission of the will and intellect must be given, in a special way, to the authentic teaching authority of the Roman Pontiff, even when he does not speak ex cathedra in such wise, indeed, that his supreme teaching authority be acknowledged with respect, and sincere assent be given to decisions made by him, conformably with his manifest mind and intention, which is made known principally either by the character of the documents in question, or by the frequency with which a certain doctrine is proposed, or by the manner in which the doctrine is formulated."

#25: "Although the bishops, taken individually, do not enjoy the privilege of infallibility, they do, however, proclaim infallibly the doctrine of Christ on the following conditions: namely, when, even though dispersed throughout the world but preserving for all that amongst themselves and with Peter's successor the bond of communion, in their authoritative teaching concerning matters of faith and morals, they are in agreement that a particular teaching is to be held definitively and absolutely." [40]

Vatican II was itself a Council and proclaims that its teachings must be obeyed. Vatican II Lumen Gentium explains the need for obedience while at the same time proclaiming the need to eliminate dissension:
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